The measurement was taken to encourage the current Honduran government to accept the Arias 12 point plan.
The State Department spokesman, Ian Kelly said, “In support of this mission and as a consequence of the de facto regime’s reluctance to sign the San Jose Accord, the US Department of State is conducting a full review of our visa policy in Honduras.” and “We firmly believe a negotiated solution is the appropriate way forward and the San Jose Accord is the best solution.”
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I don’t care I plan to take my tourist dollars and go there for a few days – meet the people – drink their beer and smoke some fine cigars – F the politicians BOTH HERE AND THERE…
I’m ashamed of our leaders that have turned their back on our friends. Didn’t Honduras send troops to help us in Iraq? Our politicians have betrayed Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Honduras. I have written my senator and will again. There are other countries in this hemisphere that are weak and could fall to the lies of the commies. President Obama wakeup!!
Of course, they decide to bait in order to get what they want; isn’t that what countries of any part of the world do in order to win?
However, it is known that in order to live as one pleases, we have to submit just to be left alone.
The fact that they would mix in another country, is just presenting the desperation over victory, or rather, having things done they want it to be done.
And although I find this momentary use of gain as unfair and harsh, the fact is that, (although they say they’ll hear us, -the people-, out, and agree, or listen to what we think should be done in respects to the residents to any country), the upper men who swing their feet onto their shiny oak desks while sitting in their expensive thrones, smoking that cigar, playing “king of human rights”, could care less about what we think is right, and WHY we do. They think they’re the smartest of all, and that’s humorous of all.
Obviously, the people of Honduras, who are at a poor state with income, food, education; economy over all, should have the right, since they have been kicked around by Zelaya, and he was in fact trying to create a communist country along with his rich buddies.
I’m not siding with anyone, yet, since to me, it seems both countries are in a rut.
However, this Visa issue is beyond right, and obviously a way to persuade, rather, intimidate.
Overall, I don’t see ANYONE doing the right thing.
Instead, they all seem to be running in a maze like idiots, throwing out ideas without thinking, only to mess things up further.
The past is the past, we learn from it. Bringing up events, speeches, constitution, BLAH BLAH BLAH. What is now, is NOW, and that is change. I am not quoting from President Obama mind you, because although I support him, I am not too happy about what he’s doing, and I’m not going to be convinced just because he went to Harvard. Even Harvard dogs make the most ridiculous of mistakes.
However, by change, I mean that, it’s comical how everyone is acting like dogs chasing their own tails in circles, talking about then this, then that. How bout now, think of today, and find to fix what is going on… TODAY.
If we all twiddle our thumbs over past mistakes, and past events, then NOTHING is gonna get done.
So, what is the main concern RIGHT NOW? Well, Zelaya, the people of Honduras. Not America, since most of the people here care mostly about liposuction and beauty surgery. Sure, you’ve got your war, but making another country communist? Removing Visa’s? Are these countries being ruled by 4 year olds? Sure these men are dying in war, but these people in Honduras are dying from mal-nutrition, poverty; they’re starving, not by choice. Your son, daughter, cousin, friend, father, mother, WHATEVER, chose to suffer by defending a country who laid themselves in a busy rode, just waiting to get run over, then… BAM in your face, there it is, the consequence of mistakes. These innocent people don’t have a choice, do they? They’re just being kicked around. They complain and complain, but they also act? A vicious circle of hypocrites, and ignorant drama queens with a friking idea, that’s what it seems like to me.
Of course, they decide to bait in order to get what they want; isn’t that what countries of any part of the world do in order to win?
However, it is known that in order to live as one pleases, we have to submit just to be left alone.
The fact that they would mix in another country, is just presenting the desperation over victory, or rather, having things done they want it to be done.
And although I find this momentary use of gain as unfair and harsh, the fact is that, (although they say they’ll hear us, -the people-, out, and agree, or listen to what we think should be done in respects to the residents to any country), the upper men who swing their feet onto their shiny oak desks while sitting in their expensive thrones, smoking that cigar, playing “king of human rights”, could care less about what we think is right, and WHY we do. They think they’re the smartest of all, and that’s humorous of all.
Obviously, the people of Honduras, who are at a poor state with income, food, education; economy over all, should have the right, since they have been kicked around by Zelaya, and he was in fact trying to create a communist country along with his rich buddies.
I’m not siding with anyone, yet, since to me, it seems both countries are in a rut.
However, this Visa issue is beyond right, and obviously a way to persuade, rather, intimidate.
Overall, I don’t see ANYONE doing the right thing.
Instead, they all seem to be running in a maze like idiots, throwing out ideas without thinking, only to mess things up further.
The past is the past, we learn from it. Bringing up events, speeches, constitution, BLAH BLAH BLAH. What is now, is NOW, and that is change. I am not quoting from President Obama mind you, because although I support him, I am not too happy about what he’s doing, and I’m not going to be convinced just because he went to Harvard. Even Harvard dogs make the most ridiculous of mistakes.
However, by change, I mean that, it’s comical how everyone is acting like dogs chasing their own tails in circles, talking about then this, then that. How bout now, think of today, and find to fix what is going on… TODAY.
If we all twiddle our thumbs over past mistakes, and past events, then NOTHING is gonna get done.
So, what is the main concern RIGHT NOW? Well, Zelaya, the people of Honduras. Not America, since most of the people here care mostly about liposuction and beauty surgery. Sure, you’ve got your war, but making another country communist? Removing Visa’s? Are these countries being ruled by 4 year olds? Sure these men are dying in war, but these people in Honduras are dying from mal-nutrition, poverty; they’re starving, not by choice. Your son, daughter, cousin, friend, father, mother, WHATEVER, chose to suffer by defending a country who laid themselves in a busy rode, just waiting to get run over, then… BAM in your face, there it is, the consequence of mistakes. These innocent people don’t HAVE a choice, do they? They’re just being kicked around.
These men, who control their people, complain and complain, but they also act in return?
A vicious circle of hypocrites, and ignorant drama queens without a friking idea of what to do, that’s what it seems like to me.
Most Hondurans that over 45 years of age remember how Jimmy Carter sold Nicaragua to the Sandinistas and later on decreed that Chavez elections in Venezuela were completely legal and corruption free.
Well, the only other item to point out is that he was wrong on both ocassions, history shows that, and now we have the duty to remember that he was a leader of the Democratic Party, the same kind of attitude that Obama and his administration are taking.
To all the people who wish to claim that it was wrong to depose a democratically elected president I tell you this:
If Mr. Zelaya had respected the voters that gave him their votes and kept to representing their ideals and choice, then it would have been wrong to remove him from power, but he did not do that, he betrayed the voters when he shifted ideologies, and he broke the Constitutional rule of the country he was presiding over, and lets not forget, he was following a work plan directed by Chavez, therefore actually making that animal the defacto president of Honduras.
Ya no hay visas? Que cosa??? Todo el mundo sabe que no necesita visas para ir a los Estados Unidos—-Aun para llegar sin papeles-y sin visa uno tienen mas derechos que con visas. Uno va guardando todo sus papeles–alquileres–multas—aun fechas y papeles si haya problemas con imagracion. Todos estos sirve y mas tiempo que uno esta en los Estados Unidos sin papeles—mas derechos tiene aquel.
Yo se de que hablo—Aun has propaganda que haya problemas en pasar la frontera de Mejico a los Estados—Miles pasan cada dia—en trenes—en carros y en todo—Es facil conseguir papeles falsos–cambiando fotos en un pasaporte y otro. Y aun que la imigracion tiene aparatos para notar hasta cuando un conejo–se mueve–no importa. Muchas veces los agentes mismos–le conseja que hacer y dan una fecha de corte sabiendo usted nunca ira. Entones que??????????/ Esto de no visas no es nada—pero para convencer Chavez y otros que los Estados Unidos van a jugar su juego y pretender lo que no es.
DON’ T FORGE THAT MOST HONDURANS DON’T NEED VISAS TO GET TO THE UNITED STATES
What would be the result of the Costa Rica Plan? The so-called Arias plan that someone else made besides him or he making to go a step higher in his image in the world. Poor man–he is the big problem for Honduras now–but somehow the people do not realize it. He pretended as a mediator, but his actions betray his position. This is now evident. Now he is helping lead the foreign invasion on Honduras–an invasion worse than if soldiers came from Costa Rica-though most know about their soldiers? The defaming Honduras, cutting out trade with Honduras, shows the cruelty of those neighbors and the cruelty of USA interests—and representation that is not of the American People. Most Americans are furious about what the USA govenment is doing—Just imagine to give Zelaya back is to make Chavez president and Ortega vice-president at least until they diagree about the power each should have.
Then bring in the Taliban—they are profiters of all of this. With Venzuela influence, remove the air bases and fear some have had at least, because of USA presence there, and you will see selfish group of dictators throughout Central America working int the name of helping the poor and needy while robbing the working people of possible employment and starving the needy who are deceived by their pretenstions.
May God and may Hondurans and Central Americans and USA people and freedom lovers and justice lovers, come to the air of Honduras. Truth–Liberty and the cause of all man kind is being fought by the Hondurians and most do not realize what they are standing up to and for. Let whoever may arise to help in Honduras–and at least influence foreign governments from dominating them and making them to be slaves of Venzuela, Nicaragua and Cuba and whoever else may be in USA wanting them to weak and beggerly
I Know that most of the people that post here are honest and truthfull in their statements with the exception of the marvins and the megs….etc but the truth is that the US government is the root of the problems in latin america not because their interests in the security of the US which I agree must be guarded but because just like the case NICARAGUA Carter was lined up with one side while the CIA was with the contras and what they did was help the communists to destroy Nicaragua and left it in the condition it is now Nicaragua is lined up with chavez and Iran among others. So let us not have ideas that the USA will help Honduras they will first see it like nicaragua before their arrogance allowns them to see with a clear mind and be honest humans who can come forward and say we made a mistake…. By now everybody that has 2 fingers of forehead nows that the one to balme for all that is happening in Honduras is the USA and their leftwin government with their interests inspread a doctrine that is fatal for freedom. USA citizens please watch this guy Obama He is just (with a left concress and senate and now a supreme court) crapping all over the near and far future of your children. by the way Obama is shittless scare of chaves or maybe he has become the biggest fan of chavez what dids Obama (or the UN or OAS) said about what goes on with human rights in venezuela ……NOTHING. Obama and his administrations are raping Honduras So I understand when some Of the members of this forum feel ashsmed but just this sentiment relieves you of any guilt since you are proclaiming that the USA gov is just out of wack
Hugo cutting ties with Colombia who the hell cares he seems to think people care who needs him anyway oh sorry mel and his Alba buddies ALBA stands for Asses Limited by Abdomen
Fidel:
“A short while ago I dealt with the United States’ plans to impose the absolute superiority of its air force as an instrument of domination on the rest of the world. I mentioned the project that by 2020 they would have more than a thousand latest generation bombers and F-22 and F-35 fighter planes in their fleet of 2500 military aircraft. In twenty more years, every single one of their war planes will be robot-operated.
Military budgets always count on the support of the immense majority of American legislators. There is hardly any state in the Union where employment does not depend in part on the defense industries.
On a global level and with constant value, military expenses have doubled in the last 10 years as if there were no danger at all of any crisis. At this moment, it is the most prosperous industry on the planet.
By 2008, approximately 1.5 trillion dollars were invested in defense budgets. The US spends 42% of world expenses in this area –607 billion– not including war expenses, while the number of people who go hungry in the world has reached the figure of 1 billion.”
PEOPLE… DON’T BE FOOLED… JUST BECAUSE FIDEL CASTRO IS NOT POPULAR, DOESN’T MEAN HE IS RIGHT WHEN HE ALLEGES THE U.S. INVOLVEMENT IN THE COUP WHEN THEY SENT ZELAYA TO AN AIR BASE BEFORE SENDING HIM TO COSTA RICE. THE HONDURAN GOVERNMENT IS JUST AS CORRUPT
Yes Free Honduras Alba is the New Cartel far more dangerous however because it will fund and ferment revolution and drug smuggling state sponsored. How ironic US built bases being now used to destroy the country that built them. The super rich will be its leaders not the masses. Yes Marvin. And the poor they will have drugs to keep them high.
–edited by Admin
Of course, it is not as if the US Embassy was issuing many visas before either!
My home Honduras, my friends. You have the truth on your side, and the truth will always come to light. This is a great site because everyone can post their views, but it is clear who truly understands what is happenning in Honduras. While Chavez has/had, and will have again his oil wealth to bribe people into his way of thinking for strengthening of his own power, this fight in Honduras is much about drugs. Cocain is the other major source of funds for Chavez and his ALBA alliance. That is why they want the USA to close the bases in Honduras and Columbia. For Chavez, Zelaya, and the other pulpit liars, this is about drugs. Don’t be fooled.
Honduras, you are brave and strong. I admire my country and am ashamed of the USA for forgetting its friends.
Stay free my Honduras, Stay Free.
I to am a american that have not understood what the hell has been going on in the great u.s. for some time now,and have been ashamed of their actions.but I am proud to say I live in HONDURAS and have for the last 5 years.I love the country and, the people.We all need to hang in to what we all know is right and what is best for all of us. I think we can also pick out the trouble makers who are sitting in some office in CARACAS getting paid to write their crap and ignore their stupidity….
Marvin, get off this blog and educate yourself. If you are not Honduran, why in the world to feel entitled to an opinion regarding this issue. Please go back to wondering how in the heck you selected such a moron of a US President.
Why all of the security worries and expenses by the USA and Central American Governments? What a joke, when those supposing to love life and liberty for all men, and their prosperity, act as these claiming to represent their people have done. Here supposedly serious leaders in peace loving organization—attempting to force a small country that loves liberty and a chance to advance in life and the world. These invaders this week representing the interes of Chavez, Castro, Ortega, and Obama and Hillary it seems to some point, and those loving power instead of people, so as try to make a sovereign country break its laws and allow this foreign invasion from Venzuela, and others—and do not let Arias wash his hands as Pilot, for he evidently is acting for some interes besides that of the good of Honduras—-attempting to starve the poor and sincere people of Honduras–The worst of cruelty
These OAS jokers must be doing drugs . They think Zelaya is going to take off his mariachi hat and be a good boy and apologize for trying to bring Castro-Chavismo to Honduras and for stealing money to create his comunism there. Besides causing all this violent drama that killed a few people.Sure he is going to obey what Oscar Arias says and just step down when the new president takes over. The OAS representatives looked pretty inappropriately elated to be telling a democratic country to do as they say or else! Go back to your own countries, jokers! You have plenty of issues to deal with there and leave Hondurans to resolve their own problems. Starving the Honduran people with sanctions is ignorant and cruel. Mr. Arias, do you still feel worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize? All of this caused by the obsession of bringing the mariachi back into power even though hardly anyone wants him back in Honduras, including members of his own political party.We certainly live in very crazy times. Hondurans, we love you and understand you! I think today we all feel Hondurans.
Like other knowledgeable Americans, many military members currently serving here or who have served here previously, also realize that our own government leaders do not realize the hardships the US is imposing on the Honduran people and the close friends they have here in Honduras by its collusion with the pro-Zelayists. Furthermore, it is appalling that fellow Americans don’t realize the same thing is happening in our country, though it is smoky-mirrored with “Cash for Clunkers”, bailouts, and the dream of “universal healthcare”. If we were truly democratic anymore, we would realize how democratic Honduras is and how this action is similar to the early beginnings of America and our democratic government. Friends of Honduras, you do have friends in America despite our government’s actions. Stay strong and don’t bend to the will of other nations who only have THEIR best interests in mind!! VIVA HONDURAS!!
what a novella. the political drama being played out in the big city, many miles and mountain ranges away, does not affect us here. except…tourism has STOPPED. while this sucks big time because no money is coming in for biz owners who then have to lay off local workers…we are enjoying the lush and serene environs of the honduran rain forest. good thing bananas grow free on the trees. when the politicos finally get their sh*t together…we will still be here, willing and ready.
Don’t budge Honduras your children are going to pay a dreadful price if this guy is allowed to get away with this .Some big planners are creating a whole new adversary in our hemisphere he cutting ties with Colombia Honduras is going to be used in this game of proxy
Estoy decepcionada del Presidente Obama,yo vote por el entusiasmada ,hice campana por el en mi condado y nunca me imagine este tipo de politica exterior tan absurda.Esto va en contra de los intereses de todo un pueblo,como es posible que quieran a toda costa reintegrar al ladron mas grande que ha tenido Honduras como Presidente,tipo ignorante,mal intencionado,traidor a la patria,sin principios.Estas medidas de USA,son la manera equivocada de obligarnos a restituir a este canalla que es el unico responsable de la situacion caotica en que esta Honduras.el alumno aventajado de Chavez.NO CEDEREMOS ANTE ESTAS PRESIONES.President OBAMA, Im so dissapointed with you that I won’t vote for you again.
Marvin Z works for chavez don’t you guys get it
Has the Red Cross gone to Honduras? The country has been invaded and many poor people are beginning to starve. Thanks to Chavez, Zelaya and those going there–including Costa Rica. Contact the Red Cross and pressure that these invaded people beginning to starve need immediate help or let us form a second Red Cross to do the Job. Can you imagine having a president who is against his poor people – and causing some to already die why pretending to be their Rescuer. And some even believe these people. Look what side Castro is on–with Chavez–Zelaya–Mexico and the rest and USA–what friends—The Honduras Air base be removed as Chavez Goal–all central america is weakened and USA—so this means more deaths in the wars USA is already fighting as the enemies will no longer fear. Pressure the Red Cross to act. Consider organizing to pressure USA airports not to travel to Countries pressuring Honduras to take back a dictataror and his buddies doing so to making them slaves in the name of democracy—-??????????????/
I just want the people of Honduras know that their are large numbers of Americans who are ashamed at what our government is doing to your country.
Lo triste de los eventos de hoy—es que los representantes fueron mandados y obligados a intentar quitar la libertad de Honduras.
Cuando un ciudando siempre esta violando la ley–hay policia y soldados. Y en ojos de todo el mundo es sabido—un hombre queria quitar la libertad de Honduras y darselo a Chavez y Ortega. Y como estos aman la libertad para ellos y sus pocos amigos—y dejan morir de hambre los pobres ellos pretendenn ayudar–y siempre critican los ricos que pueden tener faltas pero no tantos como Chavez y Ortega y aquellos queriendo quitar la constitution de Honduras y defamr el pais en los ojos del mundo. Que Enganosos para pretender querer el bien y soltar los culpables
These communists still blame the USA even if they seem to be siding with them. In any case, I hope that underneath it all, the Obama’s government wll take a stand against the spread of Castro-Chavismo in our continent before they regret it. The Honduras situation is a turning point in Latin America and Obama needs to be blind or a Red one himself not to see it. Hugo Chavez has been praising Obama a lot lately, and that worries me. Hang in there Hondurans!
this forum is better without opinions that are washed out horse cookies……. ZELAYA IS JUST A COMON CRIMINAL the resistence in Honduras are just a bunch of more low life criminals who go crying to visitors fro other nations hoping they would spank the president, the congress, the supreme court and ………ha ha ha ha. they do not have the brains to fight with clear opinions and an elevated spirit of truth. in fact they are just likke their leader zelaya a bunch of VENDEPATRIA
Let we americans consider organizing marches and signs at the airports–protesting travelers visiting Costa Rica–Mexico and the other countries trying to destroy one of the best friends of the USA. What is wrong with us Americans? We had better act now or our president will of USA will soon have his Muslim friends doing the same to us in USA–We bow or he starves, removes health care for those paying years into the system and giving it to the unknowns–killing grandma as some call it. There is one comfort however—those younger people backing such called politics and so-called health care–in USA–will soon be old and have their lives removed as they are not healthy nor worthy of living. So let we Americans leave Honduras alone or maybe let us go to the streetsa–writing congressman—the Hondura people are being starved and being forced to shedding of much blood if the ex-president returns or if the countries about continue claiming they love freedom when the man violating the constitution of Honduras is guilty and attempts to destoy the liberty of every Honduras personas and of mankind through out the world.
Narco News is reporting the Golpistas are fractured, with a majority now wish to accept the Arias accords
Marvin seems to have this thing about NATO.
May I remind him that, the last time I looked, Honduras was not a NATO member!
my I129 F petition to bring my fiance from honduras to the US just got approved today by the USCIS. does this mean that he will not be issued his visa because he has not had his interview yet in consulate office in tegucigalpa? you would think they would give it to him because he has been approved here. Lord help us….
Ohh God Marvin posted again!!
As a missionary of 56 yrs in Honduras, just returned to the U. S., I know the Hondurans who love U.S. and freedom feel greatly betrayed. May God reveal the truth to the OBama Administration.
That’s not enough– NATO needs to storm the offices of congress and the so called supreme court, and turn them over to the jails, and restore the democratically elected presdent to power. The Golpistas are terrorists, who must be brought justice.
“Es obvio que su perspectiva es diferente a la del pueblo hondureño y que EE. UU. no depondrá sus propios intereses para defender a Honduras, pero yo le garantizo Embajador que en el largo plazo, esta situación tendrá repercusiones graves para todo el hemisferio y la historia condenará a los EE. UU. por no haber defendido una democracia legítima en un país que hoy más que nunca está quebrantado por la miseria y la injusticia”.
El gobierno dice a Llorens: “Usted sabe lo peligroso de un escenario como este (golpe de Estado), no sólo para Honduras, sino para todo el hemisferio, sentando un precedente nefasto para la región y el mundo, dejando a Estados Unidos como un socio débil o con intenciones no democráticas ante todos los pueblos del mundo”.
EL LIBERTADOR ha verificado la autenticidad de esta misiva enviada el 9 de agosto de 2009 por el gabinete de gobierno del Presidente Zelaya, que ahora ponemos en conocimiento de la sociedad hondureña. Si bien, la carta carece de firmas, hemos sido cautelosos para colocarla en la Web y consultamos a quien corresponde y en verdad fue escrita por la administración Zelaya.
http://ellibertador.hn/vivvo_general/3148.html
Ron, Honduran citizens who want to travel to USA for business, vacation, immigration, will not be able to get a visa until the embassy starts granting them again. A US citizen may travel to Honduras as before. The US does not issue any visa to US citizens, only foreign citizens for travel to US. However, the Honduran govt could restrict travel there to US citizens. But they won’t. They need every dollar of hard currency they can get and would never restrict tourist or business visas.
OBAMA AND CLINTON ARE SO FAR OFF BASE ON THIS THEY SHOULD GET THEIR HEADS OUT OF THE SAND. HONDURAS WAS DAYS AWAY FROM BEING CONTROLLED BY CHAVEZ. HONDURAS IS MUCH BETTER OFF TODAY. 90 PERCENT OF THE MONEY DOWN HERE WAS BEING STOLEN, USED FOR DRUG DEALS, NOT FOR SCHOOLS, MEDICINE, AND THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE,(WAKE UP AMERICA)
Shame on us!
Once again this administration is showing the depth iof their incompotence. They seem hell bent on punishing inocent people. One day soon Obama will have to face the facts that he has sided with the wrong people, and that he has chosen to neglect a great alli and friends in Latin America, and we have few left.
He is an inexperianced fool, just as we wee warned before we decided to elect him to punish the right for the 8 years of Bush.
I am amazed at this attempt by the State Dpt. to twist Honduras arm into submission.
What is it that the USA wants?
The Honduran people are in agreement with the removal of that “votes thief” known as Zelaya, well at least the majority are, so if Honduras acted within the frame of its own Constitutional laws, and the majority of the people are showing support for this action, does it not seem to you as democratic enough.
Zelaya was selling our country to Chavez, and still, the removal was done after he broke the law, not before.
And please tell me Mrs. Clinton, and Mr. Obama too, how democratic an act is what Zelaya did when he turned on the people that gave him their vote, it was never for Communism, so what is it you want, respect please our right to choose who and how governs in Honduras, all of it has been done within the frame of the law, what else do you expect from us, we do not want socialism.
This kind of pressure being applied by the USA after accepting the facts of the lawful action taken by the Honduras Congress when Zelaya was relieved from the presidency of that country sounds like it is us who should be asking who the hypocrit is.
Exactly what does that mean? Can US citizens no longer travel to Honduras? What about the ones who are there know? Ron
Its temporary, Im sure theyll start issuing more next month
That’s the ticket America, starve the people into submission. Who suffers here: the business owners and land owners, or the common man trying to come to America for a better life?
Shut the door in the face of those trying to better themselves and you’ll see an immigration problem like no other.
You’re punishing the wrong people here.