Pedro, this is not an English class, why don’t you check your own mistakes.
Pedro
August 11, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Meg,
Do you have a spell-checker?
Meg
August 11, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Free Honduras, Zelaya was not put on trial, any body can accuse any body. The Honduras’ constitution says ,very clearly, that a person is innocent until proving guilty. Sweetheart, I read my constitution, and according to article 323 of the pinal code, your dear fake president Micheletti with all his criminal friends, violated the constitution when they remove, Zelaya from power. Now I reconmend you to read the constitution. Also if you read Spanish I reconmend you to read “El Libertador”
Free Honduras
August 11, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Meg –
Zelaya was accused, and there is an arrest warrent in his name. Once again, read your constitution.
Meg
August 11, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Good point Pedro.
Vince, I do not have any thing against the rich and the prosperity of my country, I applaud those who invest in our country and try to make things better for my country. I am against people who came to my country, to take our resources, to slave our people for a ridiculous minimum wage, don’t pay taxes and violate the rules and regulations of my country by paying few lempiras to people who sell their country to any body that comes from other country. Your argument is out of touch, the Arabs have been in Honduras for many years and they have not done anything for the poor people of my country. History has show us that the Oligarchy only think about themselves and no body else. Go and ask any poor person how things have change for them when a rich person got richer. By saying that thank to the bussiness people the poor have jobs, you are using tha facade of ligitimacy saying that it is o’k to abuse and slave oru people with a low minimun wage, as long if they have jobs. That do not make any sense, I assume that you have rich friend. No body is taking the money from the rich, what the country wants is equal oportunities and to be treated with respect and dignity, something that rich people do not do with the poor in my country.
vince
August 11, 2009 at 9:39 am
As far as democracy goes…and it is important…illegally changing the laws should not be allowed. I don’t know that a coup is the answer, but they didn’t kill your beloved president. They simply kicked him out of the country. Meanwhile, an interim government will stay in power until your elections take place. As long as your new beloved Leftist leader doesn’t try to take steps to illegally change the laws, he will surely be allowed to remain in office.
vince
August 11, 2009 at 9:36 am
Meg, no matter how much you despise the “elite” business people of your country because they are rich, they are the ones that make it possible for your countrymen to have jobs. Money does not grow on trees. In Latin America, it is often printed, which causes horrible inflation. For any country, whether it is basically poor or rich, if you succumb to the mindset that you should rob from the rich to feed the poor, you are simply choosing to punish one group so that everybody is equally miserable. Your WHOLE country will be stuck in a poor rut. On the other hand, you could stop stewing over your hatred for the rich and come to the realization that your economy, and the jobs of the poor, are dependant on business people, and that even though letting them keep their money means they will stay rich, it also means that one day, your countrymen will understand a higher level of education and productivity, and the poor will no longer be so poor as they once were. One day, if your country can resist socializing your economic resources too much, you may even find that there is a large middle class. Leaving a Leftist in power is choosing for your whole country to be equally poor.
naza reo
August 11, 2009 at 8:09 am
“””WHAT IF”””” meg is a taxi driver? therefore it’s ilustrated high thinking opinions.
Pedro
August 10, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Meg,
Why don’t you provide a translation into English for our English readers?
Meg
August 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I like to recomend to thoes who rea Spanish and are suporting the coupistas to read this entry from someone who live in hoduras and is experience the abuses of the coupistas.
0
Niquita Sobre 24/07/2009 01:42:45
Hola! solo me gustaria mencionar que leo los periodicos todos los dias, y el Libertador es el unico periodico que publica comentarios tanto los que estan con el senor Zelaya y tambien del golpista (causador de problemas para nosotros los pobres) … MICHELLETTI…y tambien leo los comentarios de las personas que estan fuera de nuestro pais, y tambien las que estan aqui, y les dire que las personas que estan en el extranjeros quizas que son ricas o ingnorantes.. cuando escriben comentarios sin sentido..primeramente tienen que estar aqui viviendo la miseria que nosotros hemos estado pasando.. cuando tienen que obedecer ordenes de los golpista que a cierta hora no puedes salir a la calles y si te encuentra por ahi te llevan preso mi padre trabaja como vijilante y tiene que presentarse a trabajar para el turno de la noche… Adonde creen que mi mama y mis hermanos lo encontramos despues que no reqreso al siguiente dia… en manos de esos comunistas.. Antes que se pongan a tomar parte vengan a vivir aqui y a pasar lo que nosotros que no tenemos un gran nombre lo que tenemos que pasar.. y todas las humillacions que somos sometidos solo porque no tenemos un educacion o dinero … Gracias a Dios mis padres han trabajado muy duro para darnos una educacion porque les dire que ellos ni el segundo grado han pasado… pero si han sido humillados por estos tipos ricos que creen que son los amos y senores… pero al final todos terminamos en el mismo lugar.. en un atahul bajo tierra..algunos de nosotros somos primeros que otros.. pero esos tipos que nos estan causando todo este dolor van a pagarlo… creo que el senor Zelaya no les dio su rajadita… y aparte de eso nos subio el salario minimo..y como podemos ver ahi les toco el lado flojo porque como son ellos que tienen el dinero..(RICOS MILLONARIOS….que lo unico que les importa es el crecimiento de sus riquezas no la prosperidad de nuestro pais… y mucho meno la prosperidad de nosotros los pobres..Los quieren mantener al marjen donden nos puedan machucar y mantenerlos en el ollo………LA PROSPERIDAD DE LOS POBRES ES LA RUINAS DE LOS RICOS!
Meg
August 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Pedro, “What if ” is posibility, meaning the future something that it could hapend. I can not predict what people will do in some circunstances, because I do not predict “What if’s” Got it!
Pedro
August 10, 2009 at 3:22 pm
meg, mary lou asked you some “what if” questions – she didn’t ask you to predict the future.
Meg
August 10, 2009 at 1:41 pm
This entry is dedicated to Free Honduras, JSantos, Tony, Mary Lou and all those people who think that the coupistas are the answer to Honduras problems and think that Zelaya is the criminal. If any of you read Spanish read “El Libertador” it will open your eyes.
I read the News paper ” El Libertador” yesterday and you can see how corructed the people who forced Zelaya out are. It was a conspiracy by the elit rich bussines people of Honduras. The plan was headed by Aline Flores, whos father has running with the law and it was excuted by General Romeo Vasquez, Velasquez, who is also a criminal. And get this, General Romeo Vasquez, Velasquez, was convicted for been the head of a mophia Called : Banda de los trece”, Gang of the thirteen , they stoled more than 2000 cars internationally to sell them in different countries. He went to jail in 1993. The story is in the first page of the Heraldo, another news paper that support him and the coup now. You will see in “El Libertador ” all the faces of the mop that remove Zelaya from power,the most powerful one’s are the Arabs who have live in Honduras for many years. If you read Spanish you can get jucie information from “El Libertador”.
meg
August 9, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Mary lou, I wish I can answer your question, but I do not predict the future. I only know what every president of a democratic society knows, that is that a coup is illigal, not matter how you try to put it. The reallity is , that a man in innoncent untill is proving guilty (The Honduras’ constitution says so), and Zelaya was never accused properlly, or never had a trial to condend him. Insted he was remove from power in the middle of the night by force; That tells me that they knew that they where doing something wrong. The fact that, they do not want to allow the agency OAS back in Honduras for negociations, tells me that they know they did something wrong and do not want to be confronted with the true. Think about this for a moment.
jody
August 9, 2009 at 12:38 pm
aas someone who worked for years in Honduras when it was under military rule, i can understand the governments fear of losing all that they have gained with their new constitution if the deposed pres=ident were alow to continue his ways. He knew the constitution a nd its laws when he was elected. no one wants to go back to a dictatorship, no matter how it is cloaked in deeds and wrods. Honduran people have come too far to slip back into that form of government. democracy is a long , at times slow process. The country needs business to get out of its poverty, and stability within ints government. Actually, the country has come a long way—-years ago they would have shot him instead of putting him on a plane!
mary lou
August 9, 2009 at 8:48 am
Meg i want to ask you a question and I am almost afraid of the answer but here goes. You are proud of the protestors and strikers because you think they are fighing for democracy. You may be right but if Zelaya is reinstated and then arrested for the crimes they have proof of will these supporters still strike? If he is found guilty will they still support him and strike? If he goes to prision will they still support him and stike? What happens then, this could go on and on. Why does he want amnisty if he did nothing wrong? If he is reinstated and granted amnisty then maybe we all should move to Honduras and run for President, what an ideal situtation to gain more power and more money from the poor people of Honduras. There is no impeachment in the Constitution so if he would have been arrested would all this still be going on? They should be glad he was taken out of the country and given a chance to make another life elsewhere (if anyone would have him) with his family instead of spending the rest of his like in prision. He has the money to do this and most of it comes from the Honduan people who have been duped by him. Since Chavez likes him so much let him go to Venezuela. Zelaya won’t do this because he only wants to run a dictatorship not live under one. Do you have any idea what will happen if he is reinstated and arrested? We all would love to hear it if you do.
meg
August 9, 2009 at 12:14 am
Dictator101 , by reading your email I can see that you are against democracy. You sound like someone who wants a totalitary government, that, do not allow people to express their opinion and punish them if they do. You have no right to judge Zelaya, you are sujesting that the present fake government stop people from expressing themselves, that is nit democracy.
Analize your email and pick a side sweetheart.
mann
August 8, 2009 at 12:29 pm
to kd,
say you live in one of the poorest countries in the world, someone comes along and raises wages to damaging levels as zelaya did. we all want to make
more money, but that money has to come from somewhere, businesses have to raise all wages for workers because zelaya made it law. not a slow wage increase, but a sharp jump. now business can’t afford all their workers, some workers now have to go or the business goes under. he actually made people loose their jobs.
the lucky ones that got to keep theirs are loving the pay increase, though its nice, not healthy for
a struggling country. I believe the majority of striking workers are trying to keep their wage increases and I can understand their situation,
but thats how zelaya is able to keep so many
in his pocket. the average catracho is just trying to make ends meet, zelaya knows this, and tried to covertly bye off hondurans with excessive pay
raises to further his plan for power. this whole thing is like watching a train wreck in slow motion, so sad.
celidazuniga
August 7, 2009 at 7:27 pm
THe POST. THE HERALDO.2-08-09 read the whole article.
Not sure what posts you are referring to…I don’t have any other comments from you in the cue…?
celidazuniga
August 7, 2009 at 6:31 pm
According to sources such as the Herald nwespaper,says,”the previous ONU.ambassador had a salary of 16.138 dollars monthly.306.622 lempiras.”
Also,the guy representing the ONU.permanent mission had a salary of 15,015 dollars monthly.The zelaya adminstration never presented a budget to the honduran people because he was draining the country paying to these diplomatics huge salaries.The taxis companies,the health care workers and teachers should be shame of striking because they want the return of this crook man to power.
Some posts don’t get posted. Guess that’s what some call – fair and balanced.
Dictator101
August 7, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Good. Most rip you off every chance they get. Not to mention the crazy driving and not being able to stay in line at the red light. What a bunch of idiots.
I hope Micheletti cuts about 50% of the taxis and not allow them to operate in the city anymore. As far as the hospital workers, simply fire them. No money no food. It won’t last long. I hope he doesn’t tolerate any more stupid things like paying these people. No work no money no food.
Free Honduras
August 7, 2009 at 3:19 pm
No suprise here.
KD
August 7, 2009 at 3:07 pm
If Zelaya was such a bad guy why are the workers of Honduras supporting him so valiantly?
meg
August 7, 2009 at 2:47 pm
I am very proud of the Taxi companies, the Teachers, the Unions of Honduras and the health workers for expresing their oppinion by striking. Tis is a proud moment for me. I am proud to be part of a country that stands for liberty and democracy for all, not only the rich, like the Michelletti bunch. The people is voicing their rights. Viva the people of Honduras! Viva my Pais! Viva Honduras!
Pedro, this is not an English class, why don’t you check your own mistakes.
Meg,
Do you have a spell-checker?
Free Honduras, Zelaya was not put on trial, any body can accuse any body. The Honduras’ constitution says ,very clearly, that a person is innocent until proving guilty. Sweetheart, I read my constitution, and according to article 323 of the pinal code, your dear fake president Micheletti with all his criminal friends, violated the constitution when they remove, Zelaya from power. Now I reconmend you to read the constitution. Also if you read Spanish I reconmend you to read “El Libertador”
Meg –
Zelaya was accused, and there is an arrest warrent in his name. Once again, read your constitution.
Good point Pedro.
Vince, I do not have any thing against the rich and the prosperity of my country, I applaud those who invest in our country and try to make things better for my country. I am against people who came to my country, to take our resources, to slave our people for a ridiculous minimum wage, don’t pay taxes and violate the rules and regulations of my country by paying few lempiras to people who sell their country to any body that comes from other country. Your argument is out of touch, the Arabs have been in Honduras for many years and they have not done anything for the poor people of my country. History has show us that the Oligarchy only think about themselves and no body else. Go and ask any poor person how things have change for them when a rich person got richer. By saying that thank to the bussiness people the poor have jobs, you are using tha facade of ligitimacy saying that it is o’k to abuse and slave oru people with a low minimun wage, as long if they have jobs. That do not make any sense, I assume that you have rich friend. No body is taking the money from the rich, what the country wants is equal oportunities and to be treated with respect and dignity, something that rich people do not do with the poor in my country.
As far as democracy goes…and it is important…illegally changing the laws should not be allowed. I don’t know that a coup is the answer, but they didn’t kill your beloved president. They simply kicked him out of the country. Meanwhile, an interim government will stay in power until your elections take place. As long as your new beloved Leftist leader doesn’t try to take steps to illegally change the laws, he will surely be allowed to remain in office.
Meg, no matter how much you despise the “elite” business people of your country because they are rich, they are the ones that make it possible for your countrymen to have jobs. Money does not grow on trees. In Latin America, it is often printed, which causes horrible inflation. For any country, whether it is basically poor or rich, if you succumb to the mindset that you should rob from the rich to feed the poor, you are simply choosing to punish one group so that everybody is equally miserable. Your WHOLE country will be stuck in a poor rut. On the other hand, you could stop stewing over your hatred for the rich and come to the realization that your economy, and the jobs of the poor, are dependant on business people, and that even though letting them keep their money means they will stay rich, it also means that one day, your countrymen will understand a higher level of education and productivity, and the poor will no longer be so poor as they once were. One day, if your country can resist socializing your economic resources too much, you may even find that there is a large middle class. Leaving a Leftist in power is choosing for your whole country to be equally poor.
“””WHAT IF”””” meg is a taxi driver? therefore it’s ilustrated high thinking opinions.
Meg,
Why don’t you provide a translation into English for our English readers?
I like to recomend to thoes who rea Spanish and are suporting the coupistas to read this entry from someone who live in hoduras and is experience the abuses of the coupistas.
0
Niquita Sobre 24/07/2009 01:42:45
Hola! solo me gustaria mencionar que leo los periodicos todos los dias, y el Libertador es el unico periodico que publica comentarios tanto los que estan con el senor Zelaya y tambien del golpista (causador de problemas para nosotros los pobres) … MICHELLETTI…y tambien leo los comentarios de las personas que estan fuera de nuestro pais, y tambien las que estan aqui, y les dire que las personas que estan en el extranjeros quizas que son ricas o ingnorantes.. cuando escriben comentarios sin sentido..primeramente tienen que estar aqui viviendo la miseria que nosotros hemos estado pasando.. cuando tienen que obedecer ordenes de los golpista que a cierta hora no puedes salir a la calles y si te encuentra por ahi te llevan preso mi padre trabaja como vijilante y tiene que presentarse a trabajar para el turno de la noche… Adonde creen que mi mama y mis hermanos lo encontramos despues que no reqreso al siguiente dia… en manos de esos comunistas.. Antes que se pongan a tomar parte vengan a vivir aqui y a pasar lo que nosotros que no tenemos un gran nombre lo que tenemos que pasar.. y todas las humillacions que somos sometidos solo porque no tenemos un educacion o dinero … Gracias a Dios mis padres han trabajado muy duro para darnos una educacion porque les dire que ellos ni el segundo grado han pasado… pero si han sido humillados por estos tipos ricos que creen que son los amos y senores… pero al final todos terminamos en el mismo lugar.. en un atahul bajo tierra..algunos de nosotros somos primeros que otros.. pero esos tipos que nos estan causando todo este dolor van a pagarlo… creo que el senor Zelaya no les dio su rajadita… y aparte de eso nos subio el salario minimo..y como podemos ver ahi les toco el lado flojo porque como son ellos que tienen el dinero..(RICOS MILLONARIOS….que lo unico que les importa es el crecimiento de sus riquezas no la prosperidad de nuestro pais… y mucho meno la prosperidad de nosotros los pobres..Los quieren mantener al marjen donden nos puedan machucar y mantenerlos en el ollo………LA PROSPERIDAD DE LOS POBRES ES LA RUINAS DE LOS RICOS!
Pedro, “What if ” is posibility, meaning the future something that it could hapend. I can not predict what people will do in some circunstances, because I do not predict “What if’s” Got it!
meg, mary lou asked you some “what if” questions – she didn’t ask you to predict the future.
This entry is dedicated to Free Honduras, JSantos, Tony, Mary Lou and all those people who think that the coupistas are the answer to Honduras problems and think that Zelaya is the criminal. If any of you read Spanish read “El Libertador” it will open your eyes.
I read the News paper ” El Libertador” yesterday and you can see how corructed the people who forced Zelaya out are. It was a conspiracy by the elit rich bussines people of Honduras. The plan was headed by Aline Flores, whos father has running with the law and it was excuted by General Romeo Vasquez, Velasquez, who is also a criminal. And get this, General Romeo Vasquez, Velasquez, was convicted for been the head of a mophia Called : Banda de los trece”, Gang of the thirteen , they stoled more than 2000 cars internationally to sell them in different countries. He went to jail in 1993. The story is in the first page of the Heraldo, another news paper that support him and the coup now. You will see in “El Libertador ” all the faces of the mop that remove Zelaya from power,the most powerful one’s are the Arabs who have live in Honduras for many years. If you read Spanish you can get jucie information from “El Libertador”.
Mary lou, I wish I can answer your question, but I do not predict the future. I only know what every president of a democratic society knows, that is that a coup is illigal, not matter how you try to put it. The reallity is , that a man in innoncent untill is proving guilty (The Honduras’ constitution says so), and Zelaya was never accused properlly, or never had a trial to condend him. Insted he was remove from power in the middle of the night by force; That tells me that they knew that they where doing something wrong. The fact that, they do not want to allow the agency OAS back in Honduras for negociations, tells me that they know they did something wrong and do not want to be confronted with the true. Think about this for a moment.
aas someone who worked for years in Honduras when it was under military rule, i can understand the governments fear of losing all that they have gained with their new constitution if the deposed pres=ident were alow to continue his ways. He knew the constitution a nd its laws when he was elected. no one wants to go back to a dictatorship, no matter how it is cloaked in deeds and wrods. Honduran people have come too far to slip back into that form of government. democracy is a long , at times slow process. The country needs business to get out of its poverty, and stability within ints government. Actually, the country has come a long way—-years ago they would have shot him instead of putting him on a plane!
Meg i want to ask you a question and I am almost afraid of the answer but here goes. You are proud of the protestors and strikers because you think they are fighing for democracy. You may be right but if Zelaya is reinstated and then arrested for the crimes they have proof of will these supporters still strike? If he is found guilty will they still support him and strike? If he goes to prision will they still support him and stike? What happens then, this could go on and on. Why does he want amnisty if he did nothing wrong? If he is reinstated and granted amnisty then maybe we all should move to Honduras and run for President, what an ideal situtation to gain more power and more money from the poor people of Honduras. There is no impeachment in the Constitution so if he would have been arrested would all this still be going on? They should be glad he was taken out of the country and given a chance to make another life elsewhere (if anyone would have him) with his family instead of spending the rest of his like in prision. He has the money to do this and most of it comes from the Honduan people who have been duped by him. Since Chavez likes him so much let him go to Venezuela. Zelaya won’t do this because he only wants to run a dictatorship not live under one. Do you have any idea what will happen if he is reinstated and arrested? We all would love to hear it if you do.
Dictator101 , by reading your email I can see that you are against democracy. You sound like someone who wants a totalitary government, that, do not allow people to express their opinion and punish them if they do. You have no right to judge Zelaya, you are sujesting that the present fake government stop people from expressing themselves, that is nit democracy.
Analize your email and pick a side sweetheart.
to kd,
say you live in one of the poorest countries in the world, someone comes along and raises wages to damaging levels as zelaya did. we all want to make
more money, but that money has to come from somewhere, businesses have to raise all wages for workers because zelaya made it law. not a slow wage increase, but a sharp jump. now business can’t afford all their workers, some workers now have to go or the business goes under. he actually made people loose their jobs.
the lucky ones that got to keep theirs are loving the pay increase, though its nice, not healthy for
a struggling country. I believe the majority of striking workers are trying to keep their wage increases and I can understand their situation,
but thats how zelaya is able to keep so many
in his pocket. the average catracho is just trying to make ends meet, zelaya knows this, and tried to covertly bye off hondurans with excessive pay
raises to further his plan for power. this whole thing is like watching a train wreck in slow motion, so sad.
THe POST. THE HERALDO.2-08-09 read the whole article.
Not sure what posts you are referring to…I don’t have any other comments from you in the cue…?
According to sources such as the Herald nwespaper,says,”the previous ONU.ambassador had a salary of 16.138 dollars monthly.306.622 lempiras.”
Also,the guy representing the ONU.permanent mission had a salary of 15,015 dollars monthly.The zelaya adminstration never presented a budget to the honduran people because he was draining the country paying to these diplomatics huge salaries.The taxis companies,the health care workers and teachers should be shame of striking because they want the return of this crook man to power.
Some posts don’t get posted. Guess that’s what some call – fair and balanced.
Good. Most rip you off every chance they get. Not to mention the crazy driving and not being able to stay in line at the red light. What a bunch of idiots.
I hope Micheletti cuts about 50% of the taxis and not allow them to operate in the city anymore. As far as the hospital workers, simply fire them. No money no food. It won’t last long. I hope he doesn’t tolerate any more stupid things like paying these people. No work no money no food.
No suprise here.
If Zelaya was such a bad guy why are the workers of Honduras supporting him so valiantly?
I am very proud of the Taxi companies, the Teachers, the Unions of Honduras and the health workers for expresing their oppinion by striking. Tis is a proud moment for me. I am proud to be part of a country that stands for liberty and democracy for all, not only the rich, like the Michelletti bunch. The people is voicing their rights. Viva the people of Honduras! Viva my Pais! Viva Honduras!