Mr. Zelaya, a self-styled populist and favorite of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, is no fan of the United States. But, as Mr. Obama rightly pointed out, Mr. Zelaya was democratically elected…
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Gomez is an idiot! What happened to Zelaya is called impeachment is the U.S. and the fact that he was forced out in the middle of the night at gunpoint only shows that he was considered a real threat by the government! If he had been given any warning this was going to happen he would have called upon his idol Chavez to help him remain in power. Chavez would probably have send in troops or organized militia to prevent this. They action was done in a way as to avoid any violence or bloodshed. Pretty smart if you ask me. (or anyone else)
Gomez you are the one who is blinded by your own ignorance. I would like to know how Zelaya presidency was giving power to the people. Do you mean the same way Chavez has given his people so much “power”? Your comprehension of the events are laughable and your contempt for what you call “spoiled ex-pats” speaks volumes about your own prejudices and only weakens your already fragile arguement. Maybe you should consider moving to Venezuela! Chavez loves sheep like you : )
And to all my Honduran brethren, The New York Times is little more than a tabliod paper. We Americans don’t take it seriously and you shouldn’t either. Please know the majority of us support your struggle and are behind you 100%! If push comes to shove there are many like myself in the U.S. military that will be trying to get deployed there to stand up with you!!
SOME PEOPLE HERE LIKES THE NEW YORK TIMES WELL JUST IMAGINE THAT
LUPE READ THE CONSTITUTION AND DEFINE MCOUP
The military forced President Mel Zelaya out of the Presidential palace, and out of the country in his pajamas in the middle of the night at gun point with death theats.
That is a military coup and most the world knows it.
There are many fanatic ex-pats and other haters of democracy who are in denial of the truth.
They are like alcoholics who say, “I don’t have a drinking problem.”
They can repeat their lies a million times, but they will still be lies.
The truth will set you rascals free, if you can ever accept it. It is time for true democracy – gov’t by and for the people.
No longer can totalitarianism or oligarcy be disguised as democracy.
They are falling down and all the kings horses and all of their men, won’t be able to get that corruption back in power again.
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P.S. It is very good of the owner(s) of this web site to let both sides express their views here. Thanks.
Ms. Gomez, if you are able to come up with a working plan (that really works) in order to better the life of the Hondurans I will commend you, but repeating the same lies and diatribes of the socialists (a system that is proven not to work) you are only complaining, stop insulting other’s intelligence because they don’t agree with you, maybe we read more informative periodicals than what you do.
Honduras need to fight corruption and to educate its work force to be more effective when at work, the level of quality of our products is very low, and that makes us compete at the bottom, where there is more competition, but if you request or demmand of most honduras employees who don’t want to work better, to do so, immediatly they go to their Union Bosses and complaint of mistreatment, you Ms. Gomez do not seem to be aware that when people get paid to work, they are actually selling their ability to perform, that has been the way of the world for many, many years, and socialist countries typically have low quality products, so you tell me, what do you plan to do to better the condition of the people of Honduras, and, before you answer this question, remember that if their product has no market because of lack of quality, then the owners of the factory do not have the income to pay any better.
No government in the world recognizes the olpistas. Those anti-democratic outlaws seem to think that just because they hate Hugo Chavez, that they can do whatever they want. Their hatred blinds them and makes them both sick and sickening.
They need to be thrown in jail, and their assets should be seized and used to help compensate the Honduran people for all the hardships that they have caused.
What a bunch of spoiled ex-pats want, is not important. It’s time for the Honduran people to have the power. The only politicians who will succeed from now on, will be those who truly love and want to help lift up the Honduran people. The days of slave wages, and treating them like donkies are now ending. You non-native, ex-Pats better accept the changes or get out of the way.
Yes, Mr. Obama, Zelaya was democratically elected, and the same democracy that allowed him to run for the presidency established the Constitution that he blatanly violated.
Besides, Mr. Obama, I, Axel Reyes, a taxpayer in the USA and very loving and respectful of this great country ask you, does the fact that Zelaya played the game of changing ideologies once he was elected under the flag of the Liberal Party (read Democratric) of Honduras and started behaving like an extreme left socialist (not what was expected of him when elected) sound like treason to you, like stealing the election from the people that gave him his vote in trust.
Wake up, if you don’t want to accept that Honduras did what it did in order to survive and repel an invasion by the Socialist Goverments that have banded toguether in South America, please do not help them bring us to submission, we may be divided, but the quieter majority rejects socilialism, while a louder minority attempts to continue the rape of our Constitution.
what a farce the New York Times is once again. They have absolutely no idea what is really going on in Honduras. They have no idea what the Honduran Constitution really says.
Because of the political turmoil of the 80’s, the Honduran Constitution has an article (article 239) which clearly states that if a President of Honduras even voices the desire to change the Constitution to allow him to more than one term of office, he automatically looses his Presidency and shall leave office immediately!
Zelaya choose to ignor the Constitution, and thus lost his right to be President, and the Supreme Court and Congress jointly asked the military to remove him from his “White house”.
Zelaya brought all this on himself, which even Obama stated this fact last week.
Micheletti IS the duly authorized President of Honduras, and will be until the People elect a new President in November.
The New York Times should be ashamed of themselves for spreading such leftist, socialist lies!!!!!
Stop attacking Honduras, we have said no to socilaism for over 55 years, and we have meant it every time.
Agents of the MEDIA, stop using us as pawns for your political games, we are real people, with feelings and needs, we want freedom, and we do want social reforms, but we do not want socialism, so please, back off, respect the choice of the mayority for once, not for the few who are making a lot of noise.
Why does the media keep on trying to make the change of power in Honduras seem as an illegal “COUP” and why do they insist on calling a legally established Goverment a “De Facto” one?
Zelaya was ousted after refusing to heed to warnings that he was braking the law as laid down by the Constitution of Honduras, which as president of the country he is responsible to uphold, and if he felt that it should be changed in order to lenghten the term period for a president to hold office, the Constitution clearly states in article 239 that he is to renounce to his posting as president and refrain to participate in political campaigning for the next and continuous 10 years.
What hapenned in Honduras was nothing more than law applied, stop marking us a idiots and as ignorant of the law.
Manuel Zelaya is inciting blood shed (what a lover of his people) just to be put in a position that will allow him to stay in power indefinetelly and to try to bring changes to the country’s economy structure that will make the people employees of the state, that only will grant the stop of progressive earnings and securities, as well as lessen the responsability of the employer toward the employee because the employer does not have to compete with anybody in order to abtain a labor force.
All the promises that a Socialist System makes have been proven empty in many places over the last 90 + years, why choose to ignore them.
Zelaya has proven that he has no respect for the law or the constitution. His behavior is erratic, dangerous and provocative. His only way out is to cause violence and turmoil to prove he is a martyr of the people’s cause.
If he came back he could simply do a Chavez move and decide he has the power not to abide by the Arias agreement and cause a real disaster in my country. The NY times article is written by someone who knows very little of my country and who has a preconceived conclusion that meets his philosophical inclinations.
A CID Gallup poll has shown the large majority of Hondurans do not want Zelaya back. The statement about the elections and that the majority of Hondurans would view them as illegal is a lie; a complete and faceless lie.
The elections process and primaries were carried out before this crisis and all candidates for mayors, Congress and President were selected by the Honduran people in a transparent process with the monitoring of the EU; USA; UN. OAS etc. Remember that Chavez and Ortega did not allow these same monitors to participate in their elections but now clamor for their intervention in Honduras.
The article says Zelaya was summarily ousted out but the truth is the Supreme Court, the Congress and the Supreme electoral Tribunal determined that he had violated the law and the constitution. The NY Times has not evolved out of the classical coup parameter and the 80’s mentality
Just look at what Chavez is doing to the Venezuelan people and the media. When the staff of the NY Times is willing to declare that there is more freedom of expression in Venezuela than in their place of work I may respect them a little more.